Pastors Roundtable
I spent the day hanging out with Len Sweet and a group of 25 pastors from South Africa. Len shared in the AM and I shared some of our story in the afternoon. These pastors are finishing a whirlwind tour that started at Willowcreek in Chicago, went through Mars Hill and Rob Bell in Grand Rapids, Michigan, and ends in DC.
Enjoyed having lunch with Len Sweet. Always been a huge fan of his books! He's one of those guys that makes you think. Here are a few Sweetisms from today's session:
"Your baptism is your ordination into ministry."
"Ask the grandparents in your church: how many of you would lay down your life for your grandchildren? Every grandparent will raise their hand. Then ask them: how many of you would lay down your musical preferences for your grandchildren?"
"Sometimes God is more active in the world than he is in the church. Who's had more impact alleviating suffering in the world: your church or Bono?"
"When you're in incarnational mode you're always living on other people's terms."
Food for thought.
Enjoyed having lunch with Len Sweet. Always been a huge fan of his books! He's one of those guys that makes you think. Here are a few Sweetisms from today's session:
"Your baptism is your ordination into ministry."
"Ask the grandparents in your church: how many of you would lay down your life for your grandchildren? Every grandparent will raise their hand. Then ask them: how many of you would lay down your musical preferences for your grandchildren?"
"Sometimes God is more active in the world than he is in the church. Who's had more impact alleviating suffering in the world: your church or Bono?"
"When you're in incarnational mode you're always living on other people's terms."
Food for thought.
5 Comments:
Great thoughts, especially the grandparents one! By the way, what was this "tour" for? Was it a class or something that was exploring various churches or...?
Larry,
The "ring leader" of the trip is Stephan Joubert @ www.echurch.co.za.
Mark
Great post, and I like the Grandparent comments as well....But let me throw one thought in here...Let's be careful not to "exclude" the Grandparents in our thought process...Where would Joshua have been without the guidance of Moses? Wisdom is needed in all generations....
Blessings from Georgia,
Chill
Great thoughts. I always enjoy Len's insights and ideas.
I love the Bono comment...makes me wonder what we're doing.
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